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but ryan has an entirely different political persona. he's very much a policy geek, he's very much on top of substance. and so i think that's not going to be easy for biden to do. one analog that might be useful is dick cheney and john edwards in 2004 when john kerry had built momentum against george w. bush and dick cheney sat down with john edwards and kind of portrayed him as a light weight who hasn't been around, who missed a lot of votes. cheney projected some sgchlt ravitas and did george bush a virs. and president obama is hoping joe biden can do that for him tonight. >> i was wondering if you're going to ask that question, are you ready if something god forbid were to happen, a heartbeat away, do you make that point with paul ryan when the republican caricature of biden keeps pointing that out? this guy is heartbeat away from the president? it depends which side of the aisle you're on as to who wins the argument. biden has been around a long time, but you don't need to be -- you can be a relative newcomer and be more prepared to
but ryan has an entirely different political persona. he's very much a policy geek, he's very much on top of substance. and so i think that's not going to be easy for biden to do. one analog that might be useful is dick cheney and john edwards in 2004 when john kerry had built momentum against george w. bush and dick cheney sat down with john edwards and kind of portrayed him as a light weight who hasn't been around, who missed a lot of votes. cheney projected some sgchlt ravitas and did george...
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what does that mean for paul ryan in his debate? just how bi can paul ryan go? >>> and big bird's most passionate defender will join us later which will give me a chance to have a mini "west wing" reunion. and a member of the science commit me who thinks science is alive from the pit of hell. and he thinks he's a scientist. also tonight steve mor continue -- martin decided to do his political commercial, one of those guys, steve martin or bob kerrey will join me to explain why steve did that. everyone in the nicu, all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. if you're caring for a child with special needs, our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. >>> coming up, mitt romney tried to play a moderate at the debate last week. this week, paul ryan's going to gi
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now this thursday on the 11th you've got paul ryan and vice president joe biden. this is going to be very important for obama's effort to stave off romney. then on the 16th you got the second obama-romney debate. on the 22nd final obama-romney debate. then the last friday before the election one more jobs number. my own inclination the job numbers aren't quite as "game change"ing for debates as for the reason voters know how they feel about the economy. they don't need a government report. it does get a lot of attention and we got a race that's plainly at this point even though obama still has a slight advantage in the battleground states this race can go either way. >> interesting. then we got the governor, of course, speaking at vmi about foreign policy, an area for which a little while he appeared to want to take the campaign, at least before the debate. how ground moving is this? >> reporter: i don't think it's very ground moving. it's not what people will vote on. for romney it's an effort to press a leadership advantage which may be one of the things that mo
now this thursday on the 11th you've got paul ryan and vice president joe biden. this is going to be very important for obama's effort to stave off romney. then on the 16th you got the second obama-romney debate. on the 22nd final obama-romney debate. then the last friday before the election one more jobs number. my own inclination the job numbers aren't quite as "game change"ing for debates as for the reason voters know how they feel about the economy. they don't need a government...
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budget, the ryan budget calls for across the board 20% tax cut but hear me out. it's not the tax cut i'm focusing on. when you cut taxes, or leave the bush tax cuts in place, et cetera, and get rid of regulations, that's supposed to generate growth in the economy. well, let the record show in the last six years a60 years our te years of job creation occurred when the marginal tax rate was over 50%. >> oh my god. >> of the top 20 and you can look that up, joe. >> i know, but -- >> we had the best -- >> same unemployment rate for the eight years of clinton as for the eight years of bush, 5.2, 5.3. >> but i'm looking at the last 60 years. >> right. >> cutting taxes and reducing regulations does not produce job growth. and the record backs it up. the record backs it up. >> but that's like talking in a vacuum without any of the external factors. >> not over 60 years. s acraze aas casey stengle saidn look it up. >> over 60 years the united states of america has always grown at about 3.2%. >> i'm talking about job creation. >> you can look it up. >> it is eloquent but t
budget, the ryan budget calls for across the board 20% tax cut but hear me out. it's not the tax cut i'm focusing on. when you cut taxes, or leave the bush tax cuts in place, et cetera, and get rid of regulations, that's supposed to generate growth in the economy. well, let the record show in the last six years a60 years our te years of job creation occurred when the marginal tax rate was over 50%. >> oh my god. >> of the top 20 and you can look that up, joe. >> i know, but --...
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one, his selection of paul ryan was a great boom to us. we really felt like all right he's really serious. he wants to put policy first, he wants to put political courage ahead of political convenience. he wants substance ahead of ceremony and then the other thing is, as we begin to focus on the extent to the facts that this government is broken, we have a dysfunctional congress, we need a president that can fulfill the harry truman commitment that the only power i have is the power to make a bunch of damned fools do what they ought to be doing anyway. we've got to have a president that forces congress to get serious and go to work and fixes the broken executive branch that's just run amuck with executive orders and all kinds of bureaucratic mandates and so forth, and so the managerial capabilities to reorganize this government and make it, in fact, once again a functional servant of the best interests of the american people rather than political agent of me and my party is something we now see in romney as of paramount importance and fran
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both he and ryan have been, i think, five or six terms each. >> ryan in the house. >> right. >> he's in the house. but they've both had the same experience in terms of election. but 40 years of debating putting biden in somewhat of the driver's seat because of that. just because of his experience. >> we haven't seen him in five months on a tv network. on a national network. has not been an interview in five months. the last time he was on, he came out in favor of gay marriage and then the president had to -- >> he's saving himself. >> and there hasn't been a press briefing. a white house press briefing in 15 days because those can be on video. the gaggles you can't videotape and it's only people that are traveling with the president. credential guys can get into the other one, and there hasn't been one in 15 days. >> amazing. >> you wouldn't want to talk about anything in the last 15 days. >> exactly. talking about big bird and all that kind of stuff. but nothing about jobs and the economy really has come out of the white house. >> do you expect -- the debate last time around caught
both he and ryan have been, i think, five or six terms each. >> ryan in the house. >> right. >> he's in the house. but they've both had the same experience in terms of election. but 40 years of debating putting biden in somewhat of the driver's seat because of that. just because of his experience. >> we haven't seen him in five months on a tv network. on a national network. has not been an interview in five months. the last time he was on, he came out in favor of gay...
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and paul ryan, some could say he held his own. the fireworks flew from the start. >> vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. >> one month ago tonight on the anniversary of 9/11, ambassador chris stevens and three other brave americans were killed in a terrorist attack in benghazi. wasn't this a massive intelligence failure, vice president biden? >> wherever the facts lead us, wherever they lead us, we will make clear to the american public because whatever mistakes were made will not be made again. >> this is becoming more troubling by the day. they first blame the youtube video, now they're trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of malarkey. when there's a crisis we pull together as a nation. even before we knew what happened to the ambassador the governor was holding a press conference, holding a press conference. that's not presidential leadership. >> the debate moved from foreign policy to the 47%. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47%
and paul ryan, some could say he held his own. the fireworks flew from the start. >> vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. >> one month ago tonight on the anniversary of 9/11, ambassador chris stevens and three other brave americans were killed in a terrorist attack in benghazi. wasn't this a massive intelligence failure, vice president biden? >> wherever the facts lead us, wherever they lead us, we will make clear to the american public because whatever mistakes...
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look for paul ryan to go after president obama. expect joe booiden to say to pa ryan that your running mate is trying to obscure his positions. it will be an interesting night. >> all right. thank you, john. we'll be watching for sure. catch the debate here on cnbc beginning at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. the best analysis before and after the debate, especially in this election when economic issues are so important. plus, you can vote on cnbc.com on who you thought won the debate. plus, we have our patented feed showing you who is saying what throughout the night. so this is the place to be. >> i don't think we'll have to worry about energy from either one of these candidates tonight. >> oh, no. this is going to be good for sure. >>> meantime, an incredible exclusive look inside the financial industry today from our own steve liesman in his interview with goldman sachs chairman and ceo and the co-chairs of the national commission on fiscal responsibility. they have become brand names in an of themselves. alan simpson and erskine bowle
look for paul ryan to go after president obama. expect joe booiden to say to pa ryan that your running mate is trying to obscure his positions. it will be an interesting night. >> all right. thank you, john. we'll be watching for sure. catch the debate here on cnbc beginning at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. the best analysis before and after the debate, especially in this election when economic issues are so important. plus, you can vote on cnbc.com on who you thought won the debate. plus, we...
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whole thing, ryan was prepared. he was on his game on foreign policy. watch what happens when paul ryan surprised everybody with his knowledge of foreign affairs. please take a listen. >> our ambassador in paris has a marine detachment guarding him. shouldn't we have a marine detachment guarding our ambassador in benghazi, a place where we knew that there was an al qaeda cell with arms? this is becoming more troubling by the day. they first blamed the youtube video, now trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> and i think that the vice president, who has not faced the press since the benghazi incident, neither has the president faced the press, you know, we had a million tweets last night. we had so many tweets and believe me, i didn't have to cherry-pick the tweets. i've been very critical of this benghazi. people are furious in this country. so right there at the top of the debate on a subject that we didn't expect to happen, i believe ryan took the lead and he never relinquished it. >>
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biden versus ryan who is going to win? i think biden wins. >> i think we will be talking about how did obama was. >> i have a feeling that romney could nick it again. good to see you. is the new president obama leaner and meaner? we'll debate tonight's battleground america next. >>> president obama is accusing mitt romney of flip-flopping on the issues. before we go anywhere i want to play this attack on his comment on abortion. >> this is another example of governor romney hiding issues he has been campaigning on for year. >> he has made very clear if the bill come to his desk that overturn s roe versus wade that he will overturn that. >> now four weeks before an election he is trying to cloud the question. >> let me start with you. mitt romney has performed more flip-flops on abortion and i don't think this is a flip-flop. >> you can be pro life but also say we have to turn the economy around first. it has thengs like we are going to fix trade and education. but abortion is not on that list. >> yes, but the reason that h
biden versus ryan who is going to win? i think biden wins. >> i think we will be talking about how did obama was. >> i have a feeling that romney could nick it again. good to see you. is the new president obama leaner and meaner? we'll debate tonight's battleground america next. >>> president obama is accusing mitt romney of flip-flopping on the issues. before we go anywhere i want to play this attack on his comment on abortion. >> this is another example of governor...
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paul ryan's first debate? as abc news noted today, "paul ryan has actually participated in at least eight debates during his 14 years in congress. that's according to available articles and information provided by the ryan campaign." first debate? ninth debate? what's the difference, really? we know what the truth is here, but we put our presidential candidate out to talk to the press on camera and just make stuff up about it that's not true? big stuff, small stuff, nobody expects that what mitt romney says at any given moment is anything that you can take to the bank. we'll just revise it later. i do not get this strategy on their part. i do not get why that campaign does not take their candidate's perceived trustworthiness more seriously? they squander it on even small stuff like this. but, anyway, momentum wise right now, obviously, all of the momentum is on the republican side in this race. they can try to play that down as much as they want to, but it is very, very clear from the polls. substantively, for
paul ryan's first debate? as abc news noted today, "paul ryan has actually participated in at least eight debates during his 14 years in congress. that's according to available articles and information provided by the ryan campaign." first debate? ninth debate? what's the difference, really? we know what the truth is here, but we put our presidential candidate out to talk to the press on camera and just make stuff up about it that's not true? big stuff, small stuff, nobody expects...
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ticket but for ryan himself. >> ezra, you know paul ryan and you know that paul ryan's experience in the house does not include free form debating. unlike, in the united states senate, they actually have real debates on the floor, and things go back and forth without moderators, but in the house it's this soviet institution where one side never really has to talk to the other side or or take any real challenges. >> also, i think ryan did for ryan a fairly good job. i thought he got his points in. i thought he stood up and if you agreed with him you probably thought he won the debate. the problem was joe biden is a really good debatetor. he's been a six-term senator. he was named vice president in twoit largely on the strength of his debating performances. it isn't like he had won a bunch of primaries. yet there's a funny thing that happens with joe biden in between as people got an impression of him and he comes out and what biden is particularly good at and what ryan is unable to counter is biden wields authority well. i've known bb for 35 years. >> i was there. >> i was in the room
ticket but for ryan himself. >> ezra, you know paul ryan and you know that paul ryan's experience in the house does not include free form debating. unlike, in the united states senate, they actually have real debates on the floor, and things go back and forth without moderators, but in the house it's this soviet institution where one side never really has to talk to the other side or or take any real challenges. >> also, i think ryan did for ryan a fairly good job. i thought he got...
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and ryan will do that. joe, i know joe very well but i tell you, the reason they savage ryan, he's dealing with the driver in the engine compartment that can wipe out america and that's health care. you -- that's the engine. it's on automatic pilot. and it will suck up every discretionary part of the budget unless you put the brakes on and that's why they -- >> senator, i want to interrupt you on that. it sound to me that you are not displeased from what you're hearing from your candidates right now. we all agreed at the beginning it was unbelievable they didn't bring up the deficit. paul ryan opposes your plan. >> i know it. >> he dissented. >> and so did the president. everybody opposed -- we pissed everyone in america. nobody's doing anything for us. >> at the risk of pissing you off, what would you say to them? >> tell them we have a leaderless government and he can lead. this gentleman can't govern. he's doing politics day and night. >> erskine bowles, same question to you. if had a chance to advise ob
and ryan will do that. joe, i know joe very well but i tell you, the reason they savage ryan, he's dealing with the driver in the engine compartment that can wipe out america and that's health care. you -- that's the engine. it's on automatic pilot. and it will suck up every discretionary part of the budget unless you put the brakes on and that's why they -- >> senator, i want to interrupt you on that. it sound to me that you are not displeased from what you're hearing from your...
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the same is true with his running mate, paul ryan. unfortunately, we'll probably hear more of that this week. we do have a great surrogate team and they're on the ground in their respective cities or states. they move around. i certainly move around. you talk about deval patrick, i'm in chicago, rahm emanuel, stephanie rawlins blake in baltimore, kasim reed, the list goes on and on. we have the best candidate in president obama and vice president biden. we have the greatest surrogate team, and they're on the ground in those places where there are real people with real issues and real problems, and they're talking about the things that the president talks about, jobs and the economy, health care, education, energy, and tax reform. those are the president's themes. he's never walked away from any of those issues, and it's easier, i think quite frankly for mitt romney to have multiple positions on the same issue because he has no plans. he has no ideas. he has no proposals. he's not ready for prime time. >> okay. we've got a month to go.
the same is true with his running mate, paul ryan. unfortunately, we'll probably hear more of that this week. we do have a great surrogate team and they're on the ground in their respective cities or states. they move around. i certainly move around. you talk about deval patrick, i'm in chicago, rahm emanuel, stephanie rawlins blake in baltimore, kasim reed, the list goes on and on. we have the best candidate in president obama and vice president biden. we have the greatest surrogate team, and...
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that's what paul ryan believes. >> i know. it's pretty shocking because he clearly has not been where i've been. every day in washington, d.c., i see the folks, the working poor, out early on the bus to get to their jobs, the folks that work late cleaning and janitors and the various office buildings. i see tremendous discipline. and i see an incredible desire to really make a go for their families. he just is out of touch. that's why we invited him to come to cincinnati and meet some of our people, but apparently they are not coming. >> speaking of out of touch, you told e.j. dionne that the president has gotten disconnected from the people he cares about. explain what you're talking about. you think the president is disconnected? does he need to reconnect? >> that's why we invited him to cincinnati tomorrow, but i think the debate last week evidence that he got really into his policy side when really the conversation needs to be about the people that are struggling in our society. tomorrow we're hosting one man from clevelan
that's what paul ryan believes. >> i know. it's pretty shocking because he clearly has not been where i've been. every day in washington, d.c., i see the folks, the working poor, out early on the bus to get to their jobs, the folks that work late cleaning and janitors and the various office buildings. i see tremendous discipline. and i see an incredible desire to really make a go for their families. he just is out of touch. that's why we invited him to come to cincinnati and meet some of...
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. >> i thought that ryan did for ryan a fairly good job. he stood up and if you agreed with him you probably thought he won the debate. the problem is joe biden is a good debater. a six-term u.s. senator, the sixth youngestist senator ever elected to the body. vice president in 2008 largely on the strength of his debating performances. not like he won a bunch of primary and a funny thing happens with joe biden in between where people got this onion inflected impression of him as a guy washing his transam in the white house parking lot and what biden is about at and what he is unable to counter is he wields authority well. i have known bb for 35 years. i was best friends and in the room and that for a guy that looks even younger than he is like ryan was devastating. >> let's listen to joe biden talking about romney's 47%. >> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. 82% of them pay their payroll taxes and other taxes and at an effective rate higher than romney pays his taxes. over 1
. >> i thought that ryan did for ryan a fairly good job. he stood up and if you agreed with him you probably thought he won the debate. the problem is joe biden is a good debater. a six-term u.s. senator, the sixth youngestist senator ever elected to the body. vice president in 2008 largely on the strength of his debating performances. not like he won a bunch of primary and a funny thing happens with joe biden in between where people got this onion inflected impression of him as a guy...
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was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were said last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment on the tarmac with mitt romney with the funny microphone, it was actuall
was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme...
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paul ryan's family, paul ryan's business, paul ryan's whole life in janisville, wisconsin, when he was busy sitting there reading ayn rand and dreaming of a libertarian independent future, that whole life was made possible by the help of government. by social security supplemental income when his father died at a young age. by roads, by railroads, by government programs. this is a cooperative effort. and this is what mitt romney and paul ryan are rejecting and what joe biden and barack obama need too defend. it couldn't be more fundamental or more urgent, because without the counterargument, mitt romney is rocketing to the lead in the popular vote and he's catching up in the electoral college very quickly. it couldn't be more important tomorrow night. everybody says vice presidential debates don't matter. this one really does. >> i think it does. i think it really does. it's -- and i also think it sets the table for ryan to prove that hays the true conservative, that the conservatives want him to be. and the question is, is he going to leave that stage being the same guy or is he going
paul ryan's family, paul ryan's business, paul ryan's whole life in janisville, wisconsin, when he was busy sitting there reading ayn rand and dreaming of a libertarian independent future, that whole life was made possible by the help of government. by social security supplemental income when his father died at a young age. by roads, by railroads, by government programs. this is a cooperative effort. and this is what mitt romney and paul ryan are rejecting and what joe biden and barack obama...
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>> i assume you mean ryan. >> i did mean ryan, i'm sorry. i take it all back. >> if ryan wants to show those abs, i'm sure the audience would love it. look, there are a couple of things. joe biden will be able to hold ryan's feet to the fire in a way that i don't think anyone else has. and we've heard some of that conversation earlier this evening on your program talking specifically about the budget, specifically about medicare and medicaid. when paul ryan has said previously, i don't have enough time to walk you through the number, i'm sure he'll be given plenty of time. and remember that biden had what i thought was one of the best moments of the debate season last cycle when he reminded sarah palin and our audience that he was a single father. he himself -- he raised his kids after he lost his wife and his daughter. so he's a good debater. >> look, i think joe biden is a really good man, by the way, personally. a really good man with a great story. but i know him personally and i think he's a really good man. but, kate, if biden tangles
>> i assume you mean ryan. >> i did mean ryan, i'm sorry. i take it all back. >> if ryan wants to show those abs, i'm sure the audience would love it. look, there are a couple of things. joe biden will be able to hold ryan's feet to the fire in a way that i don't think anyone else has. and we've heard some of that conversation earlier this evening on your program talking specifically about the budget, specifically about medicare and medicaid. when paul ryan has said...
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next one from ryan -- is it time to get into home builders? he noticed a strong residential and commercial demand. >> i wouldn't be buying home builders right here. i think they're all overly extended. we like the suppliers. home depots, even the drif plays like wells fargo that owns 33% of the mortgage market. clearly the housing game is in play but not the toll brothers. go with the derivative plays. >> seema, thanks. >>> catch strapped state and local governments across america are increasingly betting on casinos to help raise revenue. which stocks are cashing in on that trend, we'll turn to cnbc's brian schactman live at ohio at the opening of the hollywood columbus casino. not a bad assignment for the day, brian. >> reporter: not bad, although i only get to watch right now. we got to wait until i get off the clock. this had is a huge deal for ohio. they get jobs, they get tax revenue and they have a casino on a property that was actually abandoned. the question we want to ask on "fast money," what's in it for pen national gaming, ticker p
next one from ryan -- is it time to get into home builders? he noticed a strong residential and commercial demand. >> i wouldn't be buying home builders right here. i think they're all overly extended. we like the suppliers. home depots, even the drif plays like wells fargo that owns 33% of the mortgage market. clearly the housing game is in play but not the toll brothers. go with the derivative plays. >> seema, thanks. >>> catch strapped state and local governments across...
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ryan was understandable. maybe even predictable. but beyond the newsworthiness of paul ryan getting up and taking off his microphone and ending the interview and beyond the newsworthiness of the campaign going after this reporter, there was what that reporter was able to elicit from paul ryan. there's his prescription for what it takes to get out of poverty if you live in the inner city. >> the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the inner cities, help people get out of poverty, help teach people good discipline, good character. >> are all people who are poor only poor because they have not been taught good character? or only poor people in the inner cities who are poor because they don't have good character? they don't have good discipline, they need to be taught that. you watching at home, do you not make a lot of money? was there a time you didn't have a lot of money? is that because you have bad character? if i were the romney/ryan campaign i would probably try to trash that re
ryan was understandable. maybe even predictable. but beyond the newsworthiness of paul ryan getting up and taking off his microphone and ending the interview and beyond the newsworthiness of the campaign going after this reporter, there was what that reporter was able to elicit from paul ryan. there's his prescription for what it takes to get out of poverty if you live in the inner city. >> the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the...
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the question is which paul ryan do we get? do we get this same sort of, you know, chameleon we saw in mitt romney who literally walks away from virtually everything that his campaigned on for two years in the space of less than two hours. i know that vice president biden is anxious and ready to do this and the president is anxious to get back to it as well. >> how do you size it up? >> i think ryan is one of the brightest people in congress. i think he knows an immense amount of facts. but i suspect he's going to be respectful of biden. i mean, there's a generational difference here that i think will lead ryan to not give an inch, but to not be very hostile. >> i was just going to say history shows when there's an age difference, the elder statesman wins the vice presidential debates. cheney and edwards. cheney was able to almost smack down edwards. benson and quayle, famous. joe biden, everybody talks about the gaffes on the trail, but he won most of the democratic primary debates in 2008. >> but this is a high wire act with
the question is which paul ryan do we get? do we get this same sort of, you know, chameleon we saw in mitt romney who literally walks away from virtually everything that his campaigned on for two years in the space of less than two hours. i know that vice president biden is anxious and ready to do this and the president is anxious to get back to it as well. >> how do you size it up? >> i think ryan is one of the brightest people in congress. i think he knows an immense amount of...
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ryan has to modulate. we'd like to be sharper, smarter, more on guard, but we're not. >> the neocons are the ones who have been prepping on that question. i think he had to strike that broad line there simply because in the senate and in the congress, there are a whole lot of members who are war weary. >> you're a republican. do you think this country is war weary after three wars? >> absolutely. i called for it when i was chairman and got creamed for questioning why we were engaging yet again in afghanistan. >> with an islamic country. >> here we go again. i think paul ryan had to walk that tight rope a little bit. quite frankly, it was difficult. it was obvious it was difficult, particularly on the question of iran and answering specifically with respect to the sanctions of working. are they working? they're having an impact. not being able to acknowledge that says a lot. >> i think he did a very good job on the whole foreign policy section. number one, he's a foreign policy expert. he's a chairman of fo
ryan has to modulate. we'd like to be sharper, smarter, more on guard, but we're not. >> the neocons are the ones who have been prepping on that question. i think he had to strike that broad line there simply because in the senate and in the congress, there are a whole lot of members who are war weary. >> you're a republican. do you think this country is war weary after three wars? >> absolutely. i called for it when i was chairman and got creamed for questioning why we were...
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here's what paul ryan actually said debating on libya. here it comes. >> our ambassador has a marine detachment guarding him. shouldn't we have a marine detachment guarding our ambassador in benghazi, a place that we knew there was an al qaeda cell with arms? this is becoming more troublesing by the day and now they're trying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> that last thing, blaming the romney-ryan ticket. i'll give the case to the defense to you, but i've got to say joe biden said the intelligence didn't tell them anything. the state department knew in real time that this had nothing to do with spontaneous protests about the video. that's point number one. point number two, biden said last night that he did not know or that there was no request from the state department for extra security in the benghazi consulate. the reality is, we have all learned, they made not one, not two, but five requests for additional security which were all turned down at the white house and the national security council. biden -- i
here's what paul ryan actually said debating on libya. here it comes. >> our ambassador has a marine detachment guarding him. shouldn't we have a marine detachment guarding our ambassador in benghazi, a place that we knew there was an al qaeda cell with arms? this is becoming more troublesing by the day and now they're trying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> that last thing, blaming the romney-ryan ticket. i'll give the case to the defense to you, but...
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because of paul ryan and paul ryan budget. >> it important for the future of paul ryan? he can't lay an egg, lose to biden. >> sure. >> the punching bag of the right. if you lose to joe biden what good are you? >> exactly. >> low pressure on him. win or lose, paul ryan at this point has a bright future in the republican party. i think it's important for another reason. that is, we'll have a foreign policy speech today by mitt romney and that issue's going to come up, the first major confrontation after that speech and an area we see some foreign policy tangling for the first time. >> joe biden, what's the temperature of the porridge? >> we'll go with just right. >> my point is, what do you think that -- what's the advice he's getting? if you're in that room, when's the advice? how much more aggressive than the president? >> more aggressive than the president but i mean he has a lot of opportunities with the ryan budget. the challenge for the president is he didn't take, didn't hold mitt romney to his positions. he can hold paul ryan to his positions, vice president can h
because of paul ryan and paul ryan budget. >> it important for the future of paul ryan? he can't lay an egg, lose to biden. >> sure. >> the punching bag of the right. if you lose to joe biden what good are you? >> exactly. >> low pressure on him. win or lose, paul ryan at this point has a bright future in the republican party. i think it's important for another reason. that is, we'll have a foreign policy speech today by mitt romney and that issue's going to come...
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why would congress ryan suggest otherwise? >> unemployment is higher today than when the president took office. unfortunately in the meantime, we've created net zero jobs. the weakest recovery since the great depression. i think he's right. we are happy to see some improvement in the economy. but the economy is weak they er year than last year. it was weaker last year than the year before. >> the administration is being told about the takes in libya. it's a campaign issue. this is the first time that an ambassador has been asnatsz s e assassinated. the ambassador's father said this morning he doesn't want to it be campaign issue. does that cause you concern about governor romney bringing it up on the stump? >> well, he didn't say it was a campaign issue. he said it was an issue. it's something the american people are concerned about, jake. look, you have been on top of this. have seen some of the tough questions you have been asking the white house on it. folks want to know why wasn't the security there and why did the adminis
why would congress ryan suggest otherwise? >> unemployment is higher today than when the president took office. unfortunately in the meantime, we've created net zero jobs. the weakest recovery since the great depression. i think he's right. we are happy to see some improvement in the economy. but the economy is weak they er year than last year. it was weaker last year than the year before. >> the administration is being told about the takes in libya. it's a campaign issue. this is...
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the question is which paul ryan do we get? do we get this same sort of, you know, chameleon we saw in mitt romney who literally walks away from virtually everything that his campaigned on for two years in the space of less than two hours. i know that vice president biden is anxious and ready to do this and the president is anxious to get back to it as well. >> how do you size it up? >> i think ryan is one of the brightest people in congress. i think he knows an immense amount of facts. but i suspect he's going to be respectful of biden. i mean, there's a generational difference here that i think will lead ryan to not give an inch, but to not be very hostile. >> i was just going to say history shows when there's an age difference, the elder statesman wins the vice presidential debates. cheney and edwards. cheney was able to almost smack down edwards. benson and quayle, famous. joe biden, everybody talks about the gaffes on the trail, but he won most of the democratic primary debates in 2008. >> but this is a high wire act with
the question is which paul ryan do we get? do we get this same sort of, you know, chameleon we saw in mitt romney who literally walks away from virtually everything that his campaigned on for two years in the space of less than two hours. i know that vice president biden is anxious and ready to do this and the president is anxious to get back to it as well. >> how do you size it up? >> i think ryan is one of the brightest people in congress. i think he knows an immense amount of...
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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate and you talk about those things and i can argue persuasively as i'm capable of arg
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those...
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paul ryan has basically grown up inside the capitol. >> well, i think there are real advantages for ryan, too. he comes across as sincere and likable like the guy who lives next door to you and i think that's a huge advantage to do that. second of all, the vice president is going to have defend everything about their administration -- the mediocrity of the economy, the failure in foreign policy and so forth. and let's face it, joe biden has had his share of being the punch line on the talk shows and the comedy shows quite a bit, and there's always that opportunity with joe biden we're going to see some major gaffe again. >> all right, so, let's see if the kids in college for thursday night start a drinking game for how many times they hear big bird mentioned between the vice president ticket-holders. jonathan capehart, karen finney and john brebender, thank you for joining me. >>> joining me in studio, ohio state senator nina turner. great to have you here. i know you've been listening to the conversation about ohio, so let's dig in. their voter registration deadline is today. both candi
paul ryan has basically grown up inside the capitol. >> well, i think there are real advantages for ryan, too. he comes across as sincere and likable like the guy who lives next door to you and i think that's a huge advantage to do that. second of all, the vice president is going to have defend everything about their administration -- the mediocrity of the economy, the failure in foreign policy and so forth. and let's face it, joe biden has had his share of being the punch line on the...
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to have you on. >> thank you so much. >> and we will be back. >>> this week saw joe biden and paul ryan starring in first and only vice-presidential debate of the campaign season and that brings me to my question of the week. you'd better put on your thinking caps. this is a tough one. who wiere the participants in te first vice-presidential debate ever in history was it a, johns and lodge in 1960, b, agnew and muskie in 1967, c, agnew and shriver in 1962 or d mondale and dole in 1976. stay tuned we'll tell you the correct answer. also remember if you miss or recent jobs special or any specials go to itunes. the audio podcast is free or you can buy the video version at itunes.com/fareed. this week's new book of the week is "the new new deal" by michael green wa grunwald. had president obama read this book he would have been better able to defend his policies with mitt romney. now for a last look, many huj fund managers have reputations for ordering on a women, fancy cars, planes, and houses but one hedge runner has an today for this almost 4,000 ton argentine sovereign warship. he doesn
to have you on. >> thank you so much. >> and we will be back. >>> this week saw joe biden and paul ryan starring in first and only vice-presidential debate of the campaign season and that brings me to my question of the week. you'd better put on your thinking caps. this is a tough one. who wiere the participants in te first vice-presidential debate ever in history was it a, johns and lodge in 1960, b, agnew and muskie in 1967, c, agnew and shriver in 1962 or d mondale and...
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but what did ryan say? ryan said i am another thoughtful, very, very knowledgeable and determined to turn things around. and he sent that same message of leadership that can make a difference-- >> ro the romney-ryan ticket have a built-in advantage. the economy is not going the way anybody wants. they have been struggling for months and months. they put ethics their web site, and position papers but one reason i think romney did so well in first debate is he ran away from any specific he himself has put out. he won't talk as katrina mentioned how you do the tax plan. when he does a foreign policy speech as he says is, "i'll be tougher than barack obama" without saying what he will and endorses most of barack obama's foreign policy. so what we're getting a lot from quar campaign-- you guys are really good at this. i don't work for a campaign so it's not kind of an even fight here-- from your campaign a lot of top-line rhetoric-- i'm strong, he's weak, i can make the economy better. he can't, without either f
but what did ryan say? ryan said i am another thoughtful, very, very knowledgeable and determined to turn things around. and he sent that same message of leadership that can make a difference-- >> ro the romney-ryan ticket have a built-in advantage. the economy is not going the way anybody wants. they have been struggling for months and months. they put ethics their web site, and position papers but one reason i think romney did so well in first debate is he ran away from any specific he...